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Heisenberg principle talk6/22/2023 ![]() ![]() I could be wrong, it has been a while since I read them. It may be from a TM, but I honestly don't remember the TMs even talking about the Heisenberg compensators in relation to the replicators, let alone saying that they don't have them and why. Specifically, the note about the replicators not having compensators, and why, needs to be cited. But to have the transporter to work you must have both the momentum and the position of a particle, so I guess the compensator does indeed allow you to measure dx and dp to a certain degree, maybe not 0 but small.- Maxwell Fawkes 12:05, (UTC) PNA-cite The Heisenberg compensators were just a joke because they compensate for the Uncertainty Principle, which is rediculous. The whole concept of the transporter is physically impossible because of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. The question is, do the Heisenberg compensators allow you to have dx = dp = 0, or just close enough to 0 to rematerialize a person. It also means that if one of them (say, dx) is less than 1/(square root of 2), the other one (dp) has to be greater and they cannot be equal. If you measure the position exactly, you have dx = 0, and thus dp = 1/0 = infinity (my apologies to the mathematicians in the crowd). What it DOES mean is that you can never measure both EXACTLY (dx = dp = 0). If dx = 10, you could have dp = 10, since 100 is definitely greater than 1/2. That does not mean that you can't measure them both with the same degree of accuracy EVER. ![]() In other words, if you measure the position with uncertainty dx, the SMALLEST uncertainty you can have in dp is 1/(2*dx). The Heisenberg principle states that the uncertainty associated with measuring position (dx) and the uncertainty associated with measuring momentum (dp) obey the relation dp*dx >= 1/2, (where I have let Planck's constant h-bar = 1). ![]() "It works around the problems caused by the Heisenberg uncertainty principle (hence the name), allowing the transporter sensors to compensate for the inability to determine the position and momentum of the target particles to the same degree of accuracy." From Andoria with Love 19:41, (UTC)Ĭlarification of the Heisenberg Principle Yeah, I think it's best to move it as background info as well, although the info might need to be slimmed down a bit.Move to the background of Heisenberg compensator.vfd for Heisenberg uncertainty principle Heisenberg uncertainty principle This appears to be a suppliment to Heisenberg compensator, but doesnt appear to have ever been references in Trek. Thank you for posting the notice, though - it's very useful for future reference! - Dan Carlson 16:34, (CEST) I'm glad that the article survived the rough day at last. ) keep it up. I admit I'm not sure what the legal ramifications of that are, but I do know that it's okay as far as we're concerned. Yes, if you wrote the article yourself, it's most certainly acceptable! It just means that the content is under what's called a "dual license". I hope it is no problem that I duplicated the article from wikipedia ( ), at least, since I wrote the article there myself. 6 subspace field compensator != Heisenberg compensator.3 Clarification of the Heisenberg Principle.2 vfd for Heisenberg uncertainty principle. ![]()
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